The logic behind allowing you to gain an RRD via 3 wins or 10 completions was to ensure that people competing in restricted are not prevented long term from gaining an RRD by the continued presence or more accomplished competitors. The 10 wins under 3 judges is consistent with the AARD title which is obviously a higher level title than the RRD.
The proposal is reasonably consistent with obedience trialling in that you must leave Novice after you gain your CD, but can continue to compete in Open with Utility as an Option.
Thanks Paul, personally I do not agree with removing the need to win 3 restricted stakes to gain your RRD. I know of many dogs that would have finished 15 - 20 + Restricted stakes but their dogs work is not of adequate standard to gain an RRD and I would be disappointed to see a watering down of this title. I don't want to start a war but I do think that in Vic too many dogs have been allowed to finish restricted stakes when the quality of work was more in line with being pulled out.
You can argue that AARD is a higher title that does not require a dog to win an all age, however this is a new introduced title along the lines of the NQD (is that right?, cannot be bothered looking up the correct title) and dogs are still required to win to gain their NRD.
The second quote is the one that grates with me, sorry, we are not obedience and I do not think we should pander to those who want to remove the 'win' requirement. Restricted is just that, restricted not open to all dogs. You can compete in all age for as long as you like.
Yes we definitely need a united front on this proposal. Do you not feel that the Vic proposal of gaining your RRD the existing way with 3 wins but being able to remain competing for 3 more would not solve the issue of more accomplished dogs and handlers remaining in restricted for too long making it difficult for others to gain their title? After all they can only win 3 more and if they are that accomplished and keen enough to remain trialling then they are likely to move all age.
I am sure we will work it out!