national registry of dogs

[Peter Betteridge]

What do you think everyone if we started a national registry of dogs for all dogs that participate in retrieving trials in australia??
My hope is that eventually we will do away with the stone age method of entering trials and do it over the net using the registry and k9 council registration numbers.it would also be an excellent way of keeping track of dog participation and trends in our sport
if you all agree that it is a good idea I will lead off and post my dogs details up

[Garrick Bridges]

Hi Peter,
not a bad idea but I think it will need the approval of the state and national canine associations.

Garrick

[Peter Betteridge]

hi garrick
I don't believe we would need anyones approval as it would be just for users of this site and a very convenient way for trial sec's to put their catalogue's together.it might even help jason get his 2006 AWRC retrieving dog of the year up and running a bit sooner

[Jason Ferris]

Hi Peter

Thanks to Laraine's hard work last year, I already have the data for all dogs which placed in a trial in 2005. As for the 2006 Dog of the Year, I just need to find some time to reformat it into something which will be easier to work with in 2006.

Cheers, Jason.

[Robert Tawton]

Hi Peter and Garrick,
Personally I like the concept and I agree with you that creation of a National Register should not require “official” endorsement. On the other hand, I agree with Garrick that using the “National Register” and entering trials electronically will require “official” blessing. For example, some years ago NSW made a ruling that all entries had to be on “official” entry forms and that home generated look a likes or even photocopies of original forms were not to be accepted. The rationale behind this ruling was that the sale of official entry forms was a revenue source for the Stae body. The ACTCA will, for a fee, preprint “official’ entry forms and the only difference between these and home generated look a likes is that they print on the back of the forms “Show” type info relating to eligibility for the various Classes.
I am aware that in the US there is a company that specialises in distributing Trial Schedules, preparing entry forms and forwarding these (with the appropriate money) to the Club Secretaries, all for a fee of course. I am not sure exactly how it all works; perhaps we can ask Lainee when she is at Benalla.
BFN, RWT

PS Pam tells me that the process of entering a big Quilt Show involves sending a picture of the quilt (usually specified to be a colour transparency/slide) with your entry form. All the slides are considered by the organisers and the final entries are selected from the slides. The selected exhibitors are then notified as to when and where sent their quilt for hanging in the Show. It is interesting to note that in recent times prospective exhibitors are being given the option of sending a slide or e-mailing a picture of their quilt – isn’t modern technology wonderful? If Quilters can move with the times then why can’t the dog world?

[Peter Betteridge]

Bob
thanks for sharing your opinion.like you i fully understand that in the short term the stone age system of filling out forms will have to continue. Hopefully the ANKC will oneday see fit to update this tedium.The national registry will still help our trial sec's do their catologues and give us a national data base of all dogs that participate in our sport not just the ones that appear on the AWRC gundog of the year spreadsheet.personaly I think it is a step in the right direction.i suggest
1 dogs registered name
2 pet name
3sire
4dam
5 registered owner and state
all with rego numbers of course
does anyone else have a strong opinion on this idea????

[Kate Eltringham]

Noel and I already have a comprehensive data base of dogs that have entered the CHWGC Easter Trial, this is updated every year. Being Secretary of the club the majority of the work is done manually it is only the formatting of the catalogue that takes time. Considering we have up to 100 dogs a day it only takes us one evening to format the catalogue.

I believe it would take more of someones time to maintain a national data base than it does for us as individual club secretary's to collate the information. For National and State events it is usually the same dogs and handlers entering with the occassional newby to be added.

Fortunately in Victoria we have the wonderful Jack Montasell who keeps us informed of titles etc which enables us to update our own data base. Who has the time and would want to take ownership of such a large task of maintaining a National data base. Certainly not me!

Good thought but considering we do all this on our own time not really practical.

Kate

[Jason Ferris]

Peter

Further to my earlier post, I also have a full data set for all the dogs and handlers currently competing NSW. The dog data includes:

Owner
Member No
Handler (if regularly different to owner)
Dog Name
Call Name
Reg. No
Breed
Whelped on
Sex
Sire
Reg. No
Dam
Reg. No

I have been toying with a database for a while to hold dog and handler information along with event details and results. Eventually it would be great to have it on-line, but there are lots of issues to work through. Some are technical, but the difficult ones relate to privacy, responisibility for accuracy and maintenance etc.

In my opinion some sort of electronic system is definitely the way of the future but it might take a bit of time to get there.

Cheers, Jason.

[Lara Sedgmen]

Ozentries offers online entries to a number of NSW and ACT shows, so online entries are defnitely doable

http://www.ozentries.com/shows.html